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Are humans that advanced?

I have been thinking about it: Humans depend 99% on machines and devices in their everyday lives, from phones and mobiles to computers and video games.

However, if we just pretend that all those things didn't exist, and they weren't developed, will humans be more developed than animals? Animals are strong naturally without gadgets nor devices, but what if they had all those technology stuff and we were the animals? It would obviously be that the animals will be more advanced.

What I am trying to debate here is that humans, by default terms, aren't that advanced naturally. Cave people were just like animals, or maybe worse. It's actually the technology which alters how advanced you are... (which is, of course, made by humans)

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Humans are obviously more advanced. If you take a human who's been in Miami all their life and throw them into Alaska, they would be able to survive because our lightning fast adaptation skills. But if you did the same thing with a parrot, it would die within days.


Also technology does play a part, but only in how you use it. Sure, we have cool stuff like TVs and Computers, but that does not increase survival, therefore not showing advancement. But our medicine and other hospital stuff has the power to nearly bring the dead to life, which proves advancement in ability to survive. Most humans would live without computers(Except teenage myspace addicts :P), but much less with medicine.
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Hm... A lot of what Jared said, to be true.

However, I should also note that what is truly special about humans is that by one of them succeeding in creating a new medicine or technology which can kill cancerous cells, without killing any other cells (doesn't exist yet), you will be able to increase the life span of every other person on the planet, granted they are willing to use it.

When a lion kills a rabbit, only a few lions get to enjoy it. Of course, when a lion discovers a lake, a few more lions get to enjoy it, but still not all of them in the Sahara.
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ZamFights, a Pokemon Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, developed by Pokezam's Webmaster Freezewarp, continues its development into Alpha 7, where you can trade Pokemon with a global trade station like feature and battle other trainers. Several bugs were also fixed.

Alpha 9, now in development, will feature numerous events and locations to go to, that is up to Fuschia. It will also feature the new, interactive map, numerous minor features, and an altered look.

Alpha 9 should come around Thanksgiving, and Alpha 10, or the public Beta, should come around Christmas.

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I actually like the idea of a sixth generation Pokemon Emerald remix; few people think of the possibilities that one game has in full, colorful, barely pixaleted 3-D (in other words, think of a Play Station 2 or Xbox Original). The existing 3D we have with the DS is good, but the next generation of handheld consoles should give much more detail to the game - imagine being able to change your perspective to look into the sky while the stormcloud is slowly stretching across the region once Kyogre and Groudon have both been awoken. Imagine seeing the sky tower, and a green tail, to the left, and mirages to the right. For that matter, think of Mirage Island!

There are so many other moments for which we could experience in perspective-3D Pokemon Emerald; the battle frontier is one example, but just seeing the sun rise and set as the time passes in Dewford city would be awesome. Of course, my dreams may be more than one generation away; are there any Wii games that even would make this real?
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I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit, non to mention be the most dominant race on Earth.
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I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit, non to mention be the most dominant race on Earth.
I can hardly swat a fly as it stands. So, yeah, physically humans are very weak, as we have very little that sets us apart. That is, not including the ever-adept brain, which truly makes us dominant.
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ZamFights, a Pokemon Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, developed by Pokezam's Webmaster Freezewarp, continues its development into Alpha 7, where you can trade Pokemon with a global trade station like feature and battle other trainers. Several bugs were also fixed.

Alpha 9, now in development, will feature numerous events and locations to go to, that is up to Fuschia. It will also feature the new, interactive map, numerous minor features, and an altered look.

Alpha 9 should come around Thanksgiving, and Alpha 10, or the public Beta, should come around Christmas.

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I actually like the idea of a sixth generation Pokemon Emerald remix; few people think of the possibilities that one game has in full, colorful, barely pixaleted 3-D (in other words, think of a Play Station 2 or Xbox Original). The existing 3D we have with the DS is good, but the next generation of handheld consoles should give much more detail to the game - imagine being able to change your perspective to look into the sky while the stormcloud is slowly stretching across the region once Kyogre and Groudon have both been awoken. Imagine seeing the sky tower, and a green tail, to the left, and mirages to the right. For that matter, think of Mirage Island!

There are so many other moments for which we could experience in perspective-3D Pokemon Emerald; the battle frontier is one example, but just seeing the sun rise and set as the time passes in Dewford city would be awesome. Of course, my dreams may be more than one generation away; are there any Wii games that even would make this real?
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But remember, the brain is a physical part of the body. So we are, in a sense, physically superior.
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Not actually, as everything that comes out as a result of the brain isn't actually physical power.
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Humans are obviously more advanced.

Also technology does play a part, but only in how you use it. Sure, we have cool stuff like TVs and Computers, but that does not increase survival, therefore not showing advancement. But our medicine and other hospital stuff has the power to nearly bring the dead to life, which proves advancement in ability to survive. Most humans would live without computers(Except teenage myspace addicts :P), but much less with medicine.
Of course that is true. I know that humans are advanced, and the most advanced form of life I should say, but in my opinion, they really aren't that much, leaving out the brain part (which obviously makes humans advanced)

Also, our utter dependence on technology makes me feel we aren't really controlling. Imagine a world with no weapons, computers, phones, cars and all those stuff. Would we be able to live? I don't really think so.


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However, I should also note that what is truly special about humans is that by one of them succeeding in creating a new medicine or technology which can kill cancerous cells, without killing any other cells (doesn't exist yet), you will be able to increase the life span of every other person on the planet, granted they are willing to use it.
Besides the brain (which allows you to adapt too), this is yet again what makes humans more advanced.

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I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit
That's my point. Our brain makes us more developed mostly.



I would rate the development of humans to other animals, if technology didn't exist, and keeping in mind our brain, as a percentage:

60%

What do you think?
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I would rate the development of humans to other animals, if technology didn't exist, and keeping in mind our brain, as a percentage:

60%

What do you think?
I would disagree because "technology" is a hard thing to debate. If we wanted to catch I rabbit, we set a trap made out of some twigs we found the forest. Is that actually technology? Obviously if we have to use only our hands, then it is likely less than 60%, and we then don't stand a chance, but if we can produce things to help advance, then we are pretty advanced creatures.
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ZamFights, a Pokemon Mass Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, developed by Pokezam's Webmaster Freezewarp, continues its development into Alpha 7, where you can trade Pokemon with a global trade station like feature and battle other trainers. Several bugs were also fixed.

Alpha 9, now in development, will feature numerous events and locations to go to, that is up to Fuschia. It will also feature the new, interactive map, numerous minor features, and an altered look.

Alpha 9 should come around Thanksgiving, and Alpha 10, or the public Beta, should come around Christmas.

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Technology is the act of using a tool to make life easier. So, the rabbit trap is technology.
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