Are humans that advanced?

[Shadow]

Are humans that advanced?

I have been thinking about it: Humans depend 99% on machines and devices in their everyday lives, from phones and mobiles to computers and video games.

However, if we just pretend that all those things didn't exist, and they weren't developed, will humans be more developed than animals? Animals are strong naturally without gadgets nor devices, but what if they had all those technology stuff and we were the animals? It would obviously be that the animals will be more advanced.

What I am trying to debate here is that humans, by default terms, aren't that advanced naturally. Cave people were just like animals, or maybe worse. It's actually the technology which alters how advanced you are... (which is, of course, made by humans)

Please discuss and take my theory into deep consideration

[Jaredvcxz]

Humans are obviously more advanced. If you take a human who's been in Miami all their life and throw them into Alaska, they would be able to survive because our lightning fast adaptation skills. But if you did the same thing with a parrot, it would die within days.


Also technology does play a part, but only in how you use it. Sure, we have cool stuff like TVs and Computers, but that does not increase survival, therefore not showing advancement. But our medicine and other hospital stuff has the power to nearly bring the dead to life, which proves advancement in ability to survive. Most humans would live without computers(Except teenage myspace addicts :P), but much less with medicine.

[FreezeWarp]

Hm... A lot of what Jared said, to be true.

However, I should also note that what is truly special about humans is that by one of them succeeding in creating a new medicine or technology which can kill cancerous cells, without killing any other cells (doesn't exist yet), you will be able to increase the life span of every other person on the planet, granted they are willing to use it.

When a lion kills a rabbit, only a few lions get to enjoy it. Of course, when a lion discovers a lake, a few more lions get to enjoy it, but still not all of them in the Sahara.

[Red Globe]

I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit, non to mention be the most dominant race on Earth.

[FreezeWarp]

I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit, non to mention be the most dominant race on Earth.

I can hardly swat a fly as it stands. So, yeah, physically humans are very weak, as we have very little that sets us apart. That is, not including the ever-adept brain, which truly makes us dominant.

[Jaredvcxz]

But remember, the brain is a physical part of the body. So we are, in a sense, physically superior.

[Red Globe]

Not actually, as everything that comes out as a result of the brain isn't actually physical power.

[Shadow]

Humans are obviously more advanced.

Also technology does play a part, but only in how you use it. Sure, we have cool stuff like TVs and Computers, but that does not increase survival, therefore not showing advancement. But our medicine and other hospital stuff has the power to nearly bring the dead to life, which proves advancement in ability to survive. Most humans would live without computers(Except teenage myspace addicts :P), but much less with medicine.

Of course that is true. I know that humans are advanced, and the most advanced form of life I should say, but in my opinion, they really aren't that much, leaving out the brain part (which obviously makes humans advanced)

Also, our utter dependence on technology makes me feel we aren't really controlling. Imagine a world with no weapons, computers, phones, cars and all those stuff. Would we be able to live? I don't really think so.



However, I should also note that what is truly special about humans is that by one of them succeeding in creating a new medicine or technology which can kill cancerous cells, without killing any other cells (doesn't exist yet), you will be able to increase the life span of every other person on the planet, granted they are willing to use it.

Besides the brain (which allows you to adapt too), this is yet again what makes humans more advanced.

I'd say intelligence is the thing that makes humans adapt.

Physically, and that means if we use just our physical power, not traps or weapons, we'd probably fail to catch a rabbit

That's my point. Our brain makes us more developed mostly.



I would rate the development of humans to other animals, if technology didn't exist, and keeping in mind our brain, as a percentage:

60%

What do you think?

[FreezeWarp]

I would rate the development of humans to other animals, if technology didn't exist, and keeping in mind our brain, as a percentage:

60%

What do you think?

I would disagree because "technology" is a hard thing to debate. If we wanted to catch I rabbit, we set a trap made out of some twigs we found the forest. Is that actually technology? Obviously if we have to use only our hands, then it is likely less than 60%, and we then don't stand a chance, but if we can produce things to help advance, then we are pretty advanced creatures.

[Jaredvcxz]

Technology is the act of using a tool to make life easier. So, the rabbit trap is technology.

[Shadow]

Yeah, I agree with Jared. Also, animals learn to do the same thing (some animals have very complex strategies to prey, etc.) which doesn't really make us more developed than them naturally

[Neo Pikachu]

Before you can start debating technology being what helps us live besides our intelligence, make sure you ask yourself what it is.

Technology is the process by which humans modify nature to meet their needs and wants. Most people, however, think of technology in terms of its artifacts: computers and software, aircraft, pesticides, water-treatment plants, birth-control pills, and microwave ovens, to name a few. But technology is more than these tangible products.

Technology includes all of the infrastructure necessary for the design, manufacture, operation, and repair of technological artifacts, from corporate headquarters and engineering schools to manufacturing plants and maintenance facilities. The knowledge and processes used to create and to operate technological artifacts -- engineering know-how, manufacturing expertise, and various technical skills -- are equally important part of technology.

Technology is a product of engineering and science, the study of the natural world. Science has two parts: (1) a body of knowledge that has been accumulated over time and (2) a process-scientific inquiry-that generates knowledge about the natural world. Engineering, too, consists of a body of knowledge-in this case knowledge of the design and creation of human-made products-and a process for solving problems. Science aims to understand the "why" and "how" of nature, engineering seeks to shape the natural world to meet human needs and wants. Engineering, therefore, could be called "design under constraint," with science-the laws of nature-being one of a number of limiting factors engineers must take into account. Other constraints include cost, reliability, safety, environmental impact, ease of use, available human and material resources, manufacturability, government regulations, laws, and even politics. In short, technology necessarily involves science and engineering.

With that, now you can continue.

You can say that making a trap made of twigs and stuff is a form of technology however, when you think about, even animals have their certain traps. Spiders have spider-webs. Lions usually have tall grass that they can patiently sit in and blend in with. So, that when a Wildebeest or something of the sort comes along, it can pounce on it or sneak up on it. Those are still example of traps.

And, it is actually possible for a human being to catch a Rabbit using just their two hands. Just like any other predator we have to use our intelligence. We have to blend in with our surroundings or somehow quietly walk up behind the rabbit until we're close enough for a "pounce" if you will. So, taking away our brain power or intelligence isn't fair. If you want to make this discussion truly fair, you should consider that if you try to take away humans intelligence, you have to take away an animals intelligence or physical strength.

Humans are still animals regardless though.

I am pretty sure that if humans never had the intelligence to create technology, we'd be just like any other animal. We'd have very complex strategies to catch prey.

[FreezeWarp]

Before you can start debating technology being what helps us live besides our intelligence, make sure you ask yourself what it is.

Technology is the process by which humans modify nature to meet their needs and wants. Most people, however, think of technology in terms of its artifacts: computers and software, aircraft, pesticides, water-treatment plants, birth-control pills, and microwave ovens, to name a few. But technology is more than these tangible products.

Technology includes all of the infrastructure necessary for the design, manufacture, operation, and repair of technological artifacts, from corporate headquarters and engineering schools to manufacturing plants and maintenance facilities. The knowledge and processes used to create and to operate technological artifacts -- engineering know-how, manufacturing expertise, and various technical skills -- are equally important part of technology.

Technology is a product of engineering and science, the study of the natural world. Science has two parts: (1) a body of knowledge that has been accumulated over time and (2) a process-scientific inquiry-that generates knowledge about the natural world. Engineering, too, consists of a body of knowledge-in this case knowledge of the design and creation of human-made products-and a process for solving problems. Science aims to understand the "why" and "how" of nature, engineering seeks to shape the natural world to meet human needs and wants. Engineering, therefore, could be called "design under constraint," with science-the laws of nature-being one of a number of limiting factors engineers must take into account. Other constraints include cost, reliability, safety, environmental impact, ease of use, available human and material resources, manufacturability, government regulations, laws, and even politics. In short, technology necessarily involves science and engineering.

With that, now you can continue.

You can say that making a trap made of twigs and stuff is a form of technology however, when you think about, even animals have their certain traps. Spiders have spider-webs. Lions usually have tall grass that they can patiently sit in and blend in with. So, that when a Wildebeest or something of the sort comes along, it can pounce on it or sneak up on it. Those are still example of traps.

And, it is actually possible for a human being to catch a Rabbit using just their two hands. Just like any other predator we have to use our intelligence. We have to blend in with our surroundings or somehow quietly walk up behind the rabbit until we're close enough for a "pounce" if you will. So, taking away our brain power or intelligence isn't fair. If you want to make this discussion truly fair, you should consider that if you try to take away humans intelligence, you have to take away an animals intelligence or physical strength.

Humans are still animals regardless though.

I am pretty sure that if humans never had the intelligence to create technology, we'd be just like any other animal. We'd have very complex strategies to catch prey.

You make an interesting point Essentially, without any form of technology, we'd have been dead 2 million years ago :P

[Neo Pikachu]

You make an interesting point Essentially, without any form of technology, we'd have been dead 2 million years ago :P

:P I know, I just wanted to make this more of a debate because it was going nowhere. Or so it seemed.

[Palmo]

Thats true technology is everything!!