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Blaziken
01-27-2008, 03:28 PM
This week's POTW, Crobat.

Crobat

3rd Generation

Being one of the fastest pokemon, Crobat was widely used. Boasting plenty of helpful attacks as well as news ones it didn’t have in the previous generation, Crobat could’ve been used in many ways. It was hard to see a bad point in Crobat and with the great stats and movepools it had, it was obvious that Crobat was definitely in the OU section.

Choice Bander

Item: Choice Band
Nature: Adamant/ Jolly

Attacks:
Sludge Bomb
Aerial Ace
Shadow Ball
Steel Wing/ Return

A basic Choice Band set for a Crobat in the 3rd generation without using Hidden Power. Sludge Bomb is its main attacking move, having the most power from the STAB. Aerial Ace gave it the advantage against those pokemon who liked to raise their evasiveness. Shadow Ball covered one of its weaknesses, psychic while the final move it just for move coverage or power. Basic Choice Bander Crobat, not much to explain here.

Rating: 8.5/10

Tank

Item: Leftovers
Nature: Jolly

Attacks:
Confuse Ray
Mean Look
Toxic
Fly

As you can see, besides the powerful offensive attacks, Crobat also had good defensive attacks. A useful tanking version of Crobat with many positives. Toxic is what does most of the damage here. Mean Look prevents your opponent from escaping so the damage Toxic will gradually take your opponent down, getting more and more powerful every turn. Confuse Ray might prevent your opponent from attacking while doing damage. Finally Fly bides you some more time so eventually your opponent will faint due to the Toxic. Quite a simple tanker but very effective, if you have a little luck on your side.

Rating: 7.5/10

3rd Generation Contests

Contest Type: Tough/Cute

Moves:
Thief
Swift/ Curse
Rest
Snore

Crobat isn’t as good in contests as it is in battling. To avoid using the not so successful jamming strategy, I’ve come up with something that might be a bit more risky. Your main combination here is the Rest Snore combo. However only use this one when you think that you’re about to be jammed by somebody or if you’re going first for the turn. Combine it with Snore for an eight star appeal. Remember though this combo isn’t supposed to be used like a Sunny Day combo as this one does get risky because it might not get you a high amount of points. That’s where Thief comes in handy. If you are going to be going last, Thief will give you a pretty good boost if nothing too bad happens to your opponents. To add in even more risk, Curse can be used to set up your combo with Thief (its not an official combo so don’t expect your score to double) but don’t do this one too often as it is very risky. On your last turn if no one is going to try and jam, that is the best time to use this. If you want, Swift is a good move to add here instead of Curse for times, which you’re going first. As you can see, a risky combination with Crobat but if might come it handy. Just to warn you, don’t expect too much since this could make or break you depending on what position you’re in. If you want to know an order, I’d use Thief, (I usually like to start last on the first turn) Rest, Snore, Curse and Thief.

Rating: 7/10

Rating of Pokemon in 3rd Generation: 8/10

4th Generation

With the battling changes, you might think that Crobat wouldn’t be as strong. If you said that, you’ve wouldn’t be entirely wrong. Yes without Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball as physical attacks anymore, Crobat does lose some power if it wasn’t for some extra moves that were added. Crobat now has become a pokemon for coverage rather than damage at a price of its physical sweeper capabilities. Crobat is still simply as strong as it was before but is some different ways.

Physical Sweeper

Item: Black Sludge
Nature: Adamant

Attacks:
X-Scissor
Brave Bird/ Aerial Ace
Quick Attack/ Substitute/ Confuse Ray/ Haze/ Hypnosis/ Roost/ Steel Wing
Quick Attack/ Substitute/ Confuse Ray/ Haze/ Hypnosis/ Roost/ Steel Wing

Crobat has gotten a tiny bit weaker as a physical sweeper but it now has a lot more options with its moves. Firstly since Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball have become special attacks, Crobat loses those two moves in its physical moveset. However Shadow Ball is replaced with X-Scissor, still covering its weakness of psychic pokemon. Brave Bird is a new attack for Crobat, like Double Edge except it’s a flying type move. If you don’t want the recoil damage though, Aerial Ace would be your other option. The next 2 attacks are the important ones. Do not choose both Steel Wing and Quick Attack together. Only chose one of them is you are going to chose them. Most people will want to slow the ever-fast Crobat down with Thunder Wave so Substitute might be a suitable option. One noticeable thing here is that Crobat gains the move Hypnosis. However keep this in mind, I’m pretty sure its impossible to have a Crobat knowing Hypnosis and Brave Bird in the same moveset so chose wisely. Roost will restore Crobat’s health while Steel Wing takes care of rock and ice pokemon. A decent Crobat which isn’t going to take a lot of risk to use. One small note, I’ve chosen Black Sludge as its item because Leftovers can now be given to another pokemon in your party and Black Sludge restores the same amount of health as Leftovers does.

Rating: 7.5/10

Special Sweeper

Item: Black Sludge
Nature: Jolly

Attacks:
Nasty Plot
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis/ Air Slash/ Giga Drain/ Substitute/ Taunt

Crobat is actually quite a good special sweeper. It has a good movepool and with its stats, it can become very lethal. Nasty Plot is the key here, basically doubling Crobat’s special attack power when used. Sludge Bomb now becomes its main sweeping move while Shadow Ball will cover Psychic types. Its final move is quite interesting. Hypnosis gives you enough time to execute Nasty Plot but it might not need it and does miss quite often. Air Slash might not be too useful due to the fact that Crobat is already resistant to the attacks that Air Slash covers and it is weaker than Sludge Bomb so it’ll only be taking up space. Giga Drain takes care of rock pokemon who do tend to have a low special defense and water pokemon who tend to have Ice Beam. Finally Substitute is to protect it from those pokemon like Blissey who try to paralyze Crobat. If successful, Crobat will be able to execute a Nasty Plot almost without any problems. Taunt does the same thing at the cost of health, forcing your opponent to attack so moves like Thunder Wave won’t work. Air Slash is probably to most useless move there. Chose any one you like but do remember now Crobat might become more used as special sweeper.

Rating: 9/10

4th Generation Contests

Contest Type: Smart

Moves:
Nasty Plot
U-Turn
Shadow Ball
Poison Fang

Crobat isn’t too bad in the contest department either. Nasty Plot will double its next round score. Because you’ll most likely go first next turn, Shadow Ball has been put here but if you find yourself going second, Poison Fang should still give you that 8 heart score as well. However beware of pokemon who try to prevent voltage from rising because then your appeal is a bust unless you manage to pick a judge that has the lowest voltage points possible for one final dash with U-Turn. All these moves can result in two 8 star appeals but each of them have their weaknesses. Because of the rather disappointing procedures of the appeal round, there isn’t going to be much else for Crobat to try.

Rating: 8/10

Rating of Crobat in 4th Generation: 8.5/10

Type:
Crobat is a dual type pokemon being both a flying and poison type pokemon. Because of this, Crobat resists all Spikes and Poison Spikes damage but is open to Stealth Rock. With this combination of types, Crobat has some handy x0.25 resistances meaning it can switch into battle with some ease but Crobat also has four common weaknesses that one should watch out for. The best way to take down Crobat is to try and weaken it with Thunder Wave or Willo-Wisp but if that doesn’t work, try using a pokemon that can break through Substitute and cause damage at the same time. Crobat has very decent defensive skills so taking this pokemon down isn’t easy but Bronzong and Skarmory stand a very good chance. Another pokemon that could cause it trouble is Garchomp or Salamence with Lum Berry. Trying to outrun it also might work but that’ll be hard even with pokemon such as Jolteon.

Ability:
Inner Focus- This ability prevents Crobat from flinching. Because of Crobat’s high speed, this ability isn’t going to be too helpful since not many pokemon will bother outrunning it just for a chance to flinch it. The only real good that will come from this ability is if Crobat does somehow get paralyzed and your opponent is going to use a Flinch/Hax pokemon or if your opponent is going to use Fake Out. Besides that, this ability serves no real purpose. Unfortunately this is the only ability Crobat can have.

Overall Rating for Crobat: 8.5/10

Gender: 50% ♀ / 50% ♂
Type: Flying/ Poison
Species: Bat Pokemon
Height: 5’11”
Weight: 165.3lbs
Weaknesses: Rock (x2) Ice (x2) Electric (x2) Psychic (x2)
Resistances: Poison (0.5) Grass (0.25) Fighting (0.20) Bug (0.25)
Immunities: Ground
Pokedex Entries:
Diamond- Having four pairs of wings enables it to fly faster and more quietly. It turns active when the night comes.
Pearl- A pokemon that has gained vastly enhanced flying performance by having its legs turn into wings.
Evolution: Evolves from Golbat if happiness is at full
Location: Evolve Golbat
Ability: Inner Focus- Prevent flinching
National Dex No.: 169
Popularity: High
Generation Introduced: 2nd
Anime Appearances: Around 20

Akai
01-27-2008, 05:43 PM
Attacks:
X-Scissor
Brave Bird/ Aerial Ace
Quick Attack/ Substitute/ Confuse Ray/ Haze/ Hypnosis/ Roost/ Steel Wing
Quick Attack/ Substitute/ Confuse Ray/ Haze/ Hypnosis/ Roost/ Steel Wing

What the bleep!? The last two... CRAZY.

Oddly enough, I disagree with all those movesets. I love Crobat, since I finally got one by total surprise in Pearl. He was my first friendship Pokemon I could evolve.

Blaziken
01-27-2008, 08:17 PM
I think I did overdo that last part but is there a reason that you don't agree with the movesets?

Akai
01-27-2008, 08:22 PM
I don't know. I just asked a lot of people and made a mock moveset, and they really liked it.

Fly, X Scissor, Sludge Bomb and Dark Pulse (or some other good move)

Blaziken
01-27-2008, 08:25 PM
No offence but that movepool only really works if you're going to use Crobat as a mixed sweeper. Fly should also be replaced with a flying move that doesn't take two turns. However it is a decent moveset.

Akai
01-27-2008, 08:32 PM
I wanted to use HMs. That's the only downside to Fly.

Blaziken
01-27-2008, 08:36 PM
Do you battle a lot Akia? It seems that you do know a fair bit.

Akai
01-27-2008, 09:28 PM
No. I hardly battle, I just play the game. Am I really that good? :3 Thank you!

zaptos
01-27-2008, 09:59 PM
How do you know all of this stuff you like are a genius at this?

Blaziken
01-27-2008, 10:19 PM
You seem to be dent at pokemon battling but I wouldn't call you pro. (No offense)
I was lucky enough to be introduced to pokemon when I was just five ywars old. I've been battling for 10 years on Pokemon Stadium 1,2 and Pokemon Colloseum. Its only until a few years ago when I became this good after learning how to properly train pokemon and what moves to teach and stuff. So in answer to your question, I know all this stuff because I've been battling since I was young. I would call myself good but not pro. (Close maybe)

Akai
01-27-2008, 10:39 PM
I started with the original Red and Blue games, so I'm not knew at this either. I just chose not to take it as serious as some people. Haha.

HobbesI
01-28-2008, 07:04 PM
That's a good moveset you have for in-game Akai. But, Blaziken's moveset is better for battling on WiFi. On WiFi, the other players are very serious about training their pokemon and want the best moveset there is to beat other people.

Blaziken
01-29-2008, 01:06 AM
When I battle, I try to cover up most of the tricks my opponent can pull off on me. I battle for seriously than for fun but when I do battle for fun, I'll use movesets like Akiai's.

Akai
01-29-2008, 10:22 AM
So, thanks for saying I suck. That's really nice. :(

Blaziken
01-29-2008, 03:19 PM
I never said you suck. I just said your moveset is decent but it isn't for hard out battling.

Akai
01-29-2008, 03:27 PM
I did say I don't battle. >_>;;

But Crobat is an awesome Pokemon. Just how fast is he, or can he get?

HobbesI
01-29-2008, 05:55 PM
According to Serebii, he can get up to a 394 speed with a good nature.

Akai
01-30-2008, 12:54 AM
Wow! That is fast. Just wondering... How does he rank in a top five/ten?

Blaziken
01-30-2008, 04:11 AM
Crobat is ranked sixth, equal with Mewtwo, Jolteon and Aerodactyl. However 3 of the pokemon who are faster than Crobat are 3 sperate forms a Deoxys. According to rules of an offical battle, ubers like Deoxys can't be used and besides, Deoxys is incrediably rare around the world so its very hard to find someone with a ligit one. (Someone that hasn't used some sort of cheating devise to obtain it) So it's hard to say if Deoxys really counts but judging from the point of view of all pokemon, Crobat is ranked at a very high 6th.

Akai
01-30-2008, 07:27 AM
Aerodactyl... wow. I never knew he was that fast. I love him. So it he's sixth, and Deoxys takes up fifth, fourth and third... who are the first two. Is Rapidash #1?

Blaziken
01-30-2008, 03:09 PM
Deoxys's speed form is first followed by Ninjask. I think the attack and normal forms of Deoxys are next then Electrode. Rapidash is actually equal 34th.

Akai
01-30-2008, 03:26 PM
Seriously? It was hailed as the "fastest" Pokemon in the world, last time I checked. Wow. :P

HobbesI
01-30-2008, 06:50 PM
I think that's only in the anime :/

I don't see why Ninjask is 2nd. I think that it whould be 1st. Speed form Deoxys and Ninjask have no difference in base speed, and Ninjask is faster when battling because of its special ability.

Blaziken
01-31-2008, 05:38 AM
Deoxys is considered faster simply because its max speed out stretches Ninjask's. But speed Deoxys' other stats do sort of suck making it going first basically useless since it can't back it up. All this information isn't considering Speed Boost and those special abilities.

Akai
01-31-2008, 10:28 AM
I agree with Hobbes. Ninjask should be first. Legendaries, especially ones like event and Deoxys, shouldn't be accounted for. So with Deoxys gone, that'll make Crobat... 4th?

Blaziken
01-31-2008, 03:01 PM
Deoxys doesn't have to completely eliminated, just its normal, attack and speed forms. If they were gone, Crobat would be 3rd I think.

Akai
02-01-2008, 02:18 PM
How? You just said he was 6th. If all the Deoxys forms were gone, that'll only leave the Normal form right?... Or were you talking Deoxys out all together?

Blaziken
02-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Just have its defence form, all the other form gone and Jolteon should be the 3rd fastest.

Akai
02-01-2008, 03:29 PM
So, Deoxys (1) ; Ninjask (2) ; Jolteon (3) ; and Crobat (4)?

That's cool. Crobat is really a fun Pokemon. I wonder why it's a Friendship Pokemon though.

Blaziken
02-01-2008, 07:41 PM
If you completely remove Deoxys, it'll be Ninjask 1st, Electrode 2nd and Crobat tied with Jolteon 3rd.

Akai
02-01-2008, 10:40 PM
Electrode? Wow... didn't see that.

Blaziken
02-01-2008, 10:45 PM
It's weird huh? Judging by appearances, you'd say Rapidash or Arcanine was the fast pokemon not a exploding rolling ball like Electride.

Delibird Edgemaster
03-06-2008, 07:47 AM
I could swear jolteon was the fastest pokemon. (Not including legendairys.) Ohwell crobat is verry cool hes faster than anything ive battled so far. o.o Thanks for the PoTW on crobat. :D