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Alakazam
11-17-2007, 04:10 PM
Due to people like Rain Tiger (Nick) and Erika, I have decided to take a leave of absence from PokeZam. I will no longer be updating anything, including the news. If you want to blame anyone, the blame goes to Rain Tiger. I gave him a lot of power on PokeZam, yet he didn't trust me at all. I told him if he didn't trust me he should just quit PokeZam. I wasn't being serious, but he went ahead and deleted his account. Rain Tiger was the editor for ZamCast and an admin on the forums. Without him I cannot run PokeZam alone, that is why I am closing it immediately. The site will remain up, but no futher updates will be posted. I am sorry to all my loyal fans, but email Nick if you want to yell at someone. Goodbye forever.

Please discuss... one last time. Thank you for all of your help over the years, but backstabbers like Nick are the reason PokeZam is now closed.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:01 PM
This is terrible. :O You can't let all the work you've done simply slip away like this!

Alakazam
11-17-2007, 05:10 PM
I'm actually serious about this. Since Rain Tiger has quit I can no longer manage the site by myself. The only way PokeZam can continue is if he returns.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:19 PM
...Did he have AIM/Yahoo and what was his screen name? Maybe I can help.

Alakazam
11-17-2007, 05:30 PM
Edit: That SOB officially ruined my weekend. I hope he's happy.

He only has Skype. His username is bobwalrus. I don't have time to run PokeZam alone because I'm in 3rd year university. He on the other hand dropped out of college and has tons of free time. I love this double standard. He's allowed to say that I did a horrible job with ZamCast without fear of being fired, but I'm not allowed to speak my mind without him going crazy. Unbelievable. The staff of PokeZam (with the exception of Blaziken, ShinyRaichu and you) are the reason PokeZam is closed.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:33 PM
That really sucks. Seriously. If we got some more reliable staff, could PokeZam go up again?

Alakazam
11-17-2007, 05:37 PM
That's highly unlikely, but yes, that's the main problem. I need someone to take over John's duties of recording ZamCast (they would have to buy a recorder for Skype), editting ZamCast, and creating movies for PokeZam. Honestly, after promising the visitors a video walkthrough for the past 3 months, I feel like shooting myself in the head (not kidding). I'm sick of quitter like John. I just makes me sick. I hate PokeZam and I've hated it for the past few months. You don't know how hard it was on me to ban Erika... I did it for Nick and Legacy so they wouldn't quit. Legacy has disappeared (he's busy with school) and Nick has some serious mental issues. Bottom line is that I'm at my wit's end right now.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:43 PM
No need to get too depressed. You won't be able to do anything if you're too stressed out.

You did say that Zamcast was done for right now, so you prolly don't need to worry about that. Just pick it back up and continue it when you can. ^^ Don't worry about the video walkthrough either. Just tell them what happened, and tell them that you'll also follow it up later if and when you can. You can't really do anything right now, so you might as well tell them the true truth.

And my idea is to bring Erika back. By God, the forum was at its peak when Erika was here. And hopefully she could update news.

Alakazam
11-17-2007, 05:45 PM
Let me tell you about the real Nick. Nick is exactly how he is in real life. If he doesn't like someone he refuses to talk to them a like a 4 year old. Nick didn't like his job, so you know how he dealt with it? He didn't show up and made up fake excuses about his grandmother dying. I thought I was anti-social until I met Nick. If you don't 100% agree with him he refuses to talk to you ever again. I guess I'll be the one with the last laugh when I'm a university graduate and he's a radio shack employee making $5/hr plus commission.

Brandon
11-17-2007, 05:48 PM
You do realize that there are many other people than Erika and Nick to help you with PokeZam? Just because two people leave doesn't mean we need to shut down. I can help you, all you need to do is ask. Especially with the Administration with the forum.

Yisrolik
11-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Erika and I will come back if you treat us with respect. You owe Erika a lot. Me and SR could handle video walkthrough, we could do zamcast on gizmo and I'll edit it. This is your fault. I told you from the beginning.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:50 PM
o.O He didn't seem that way to me. He's a person who believes in order and grammar, and that's not a bad thing. He's just a little different, and you shouldn't take vengence on him.

EDIT: See, you have people wiling to help. ^^

Yisrolik
11-17-2007, 05:51 PM
(F)uck you Brandon. you don't do shit but complain.

Crap, I wanted to have supper but now this started. I is hungry but dn't wanna fall out of the conversation.

EDIT: Nevermind he lied.

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:53 PM
Yis, watch what you say. Brandon is important here, and he's a super mod. *cough*He can ban you *cough*

Oh, and that's what's happening to me. I brought lunch upstaires to be in the convo. xD

Yisrolik
11-17-2007, 05:55 PM
you will unban me right? lol. Who cares if they are banned on a dead site? (As of 5 minutes ago)

Shiny Espeon
11-17-2007, 05:56 PM
x3 Well that's a nice way to think of it. (lol)

Yisrolik
11-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Anyways I am back from supper. Conversations over. alakazam is watch tv.

EDIT: no wait he lied.

HobbesI
11-18-2007, 11:36 AM
Yes, this is horrible...
And Yisrolik is right. If you respect Erika, then she might come back. If you got Erika back then Pokezam might return to the original great website it was... I don't think that banning her was a good idea. The forums fell apart when that happened..

Shiny Espeon
11-18-2007, 01:14 PM
True, very true. She has her own forum, but it's simply not the same. =/

FreezeWarp
11-18-2007, 06:30 PM
Well, I'm going to ask once more. Can you please let me take over Legendary Arcanine's postion. I can do good with this site, and I will not ruin it, I will not quit, though as everyone, I will have to take my own leaves of absence, etc. You can trust me, though. If you don't feel like giving me everything (and if I was in your shoes, I would be very weary), then just give me everything you feel comfortable with. Please alakazam, let me finish your work for the time-being. Let me finish the pokedex with sableye, get the programming going, etc., let me finish everything you have started, and do much more. As nick would say, this ends his chapter, but it can be time for a great chapter featuring me, and many new people like pokemaster. I can start hiring to get more good staff to keep the place going. You of course will still have to handle the financing of the site, though the google adds I think pay for it, so.... Anyway, let me take over the forum and the site as your partner. I will keep what is going, going, and I will start my own things. I would love to do some things like re-invite erika, but if you don't want her to come back, then that is fine. So, give me access to the C-Pannel of pokezam, and give me higher access to the forum. I'm not asking for everything, though I can do much good with everything, and can promise not to do anything bad. Please alakazam, give me a chance. I will keep what is going, going, and get much more going. The pokedex will not go down, the forum will not go down, this can be the greatest chapter if you let me. I won't quit, that I can promise.

Brandon
11-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Yes, this is horrible...
And Yisrolik is right. If you respect Erika, then she might come back. If you got Erika back then Pokezam might return to the original great website it was... I don't think that banning her was a good idea. The forums fell apart when that happened..
So? It was for our own good, though. Everyone agreeed too, so it didn't really matter.

Pokemaster
11-18-2007, 09:30 PM
It's not as if we can't work together and remake it to its original status. We can (Together) restore it and make it even better.

FreezeWarp
11-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Actually, quite a few people wanted erika to stay:
Shiny Espeon 3speon Myself
Alakazam
Legacy Brandon-Kun Nick

I will say that if alakazam does give the a-okay, I will try my best to bring her back, being that nick will no longer be working against me. I still want to make sure he is okay with it, and of course want to do so much more with the forum and the site, but alakazam needs to give me permission.

RegiMaster
11-19-2007, 08:45 AM
In My Head.. all i can think of is blaming Brandon.. i hate you Brandon!

Alakazam
11-19-2007, 10:49 AM
I'm sorry, but I cannot bring back Erika until exactly January 1st, 2008. For the record, I didn't agree with permanently banning her; that was Nick's choice. As you know, he loves just doing stuff without asking me.

I know Nick will probably let cooler heads prevail and return in a week, but when he does return he will never be promoted on the forums again. He can re-register, but he will only be a regular member forever. He has proved on numerous occasions that he doesn't have what it takes to be a leader of the forums. He is lacking severely in people skills. If he would just quit like that when I was obviously not being serious then he was never a team player and doesn't care about the success of PokeZam. I don't like doing this, but it's hard to tell who was worse, Nick or Kater.

ShinyRaichu, can we at least continue with ZamCast? I want to go ahead as usual this week with ZamCast 33. I personally think that Nick's editing was ruining the ZamCast. I told him many times to use Pokemon music, but he used his own. He also cut out tons of stuff I said even if I told him to leave it in. That kind of insubordination can only remind me of Kater.

I fully plan to continue with the Pokedex as well. At least that will be one project that gets finished on PokeZam.

RegiMaster
11-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Look Sean... dont be a lazy-dum-dum... its better if you try to make a change... Try to change the whole situation.. put some good trustworthy staff.. n i want Erika back.. thts the only way PokeZam can get back how it was!

If Nick does;nt want to work then let me work! I can take care of all these problems.. I was a Sup Mod in PokemonCrater Forums (but its closing down on 1st Dec 2007)! Im learning PHP and Im a trustworthy person!

+ Erika wants to talk to you... badly!!!! on MSN or AIM

Legacy
11-19-2007, 11:54 AM
Bringing Erika back would just add to the problems. The only thing Erika contributed to these forums were SPAM posts and arguments. Yeah, I didn't particularly feel that she needed to be banned, just removed from the staff, but unbanning her now isn't exactly going to improve the forum, it'll just make it more active in a bad way.

And I've disagreed with a few of Nick's actions with regards to how he ran this place in the past too, and I've voiced my opinions on that regularly in the past. He was far too strict and constricting on what he wanted to allow on the forum. He's a self confessed perfectionist and that's very detrimental on a small, fragile forum like this. Especially with his policy of manually approving members. I highly suggest you allow free registration again now and you may actually see some new members posting around.

You haven't really chosen the best people to give power to on the forum, to be honest. In my opinion, the person who should hold the highest rank, bar you, the owner, is Brandon. He is pretty much the only person here who possesses the majority of the qualities that make a good forum leader. He is actually capable of being unbiased and looking out for the good of the forum, rather than his own interests and feelings. ShinyRaichu and Shiny Espeon, whilst both good staff members in their own right, have shown extreme bias in the past and have looked past the good of the forum for their own personal reasons. Shiny Espeon briefly quit the staff and left PokéZam in protest of Erika being, rightfully, demoted. And ShinyRaichu completely overlooked all her faults and reasons for her demodding and still endeavoured to get Erika back on the staff. They weren't looking out for the good of the forum, they were acting out of loyalty to their friend. So if you want to shake up the forum and the staff, I'd start by making Brandon the highest rank on here first, and work from there.

And, I apologise for my disappearing act recently, there are a few reasons for that. Firstly, university work really piles up on me. And I work five days a week so my leisure time is seriously lacking to begin with. Then there's the fact that I have friends and family to see. So that's the main jist of why I'm not always able to get online. But recently we've had some family health difficulties which I'd rather not go into detail about and I've had problems with my internet account not working a lot.

And, in all honesty, I find it quite a chore to come on here recently. Partly because, despite me asking two or three times, my position here still hasn't been clarified. Am I staff, am I not? Am I website staff, am I forum staff? Because as far as I can tell, I'm basically just a glorified member. And partly because I've given a long list of things to do that would improve the forum (I've actually done this twice) and my ideas were neither disapproved or acted at, so that basically told me that, while I have access to the Admin area and I'm able to post there, my posts are generally just ignored or overlooked. And that doesn't exactly encourage me to try harder to help improve this place. Though, I see some of the things I suggested have eventually been enacted. Meh.

I'll try to be more active again, but there may not be a marked improvement in my activity until after Christmas, where things should cool down on my side. We'll see, I guess.

Alakazam
11-19-2007, 03:04 PM
Legacy, I'll respond to your post later. Thank you for writing so much. I have a question... why is everything always my fault? You know something, no one has ever said sorry to me in the 8 years that PokeZam has existed, but I've apologized tons of times (even when I wasn't at fault). You know, I bust my butt for this site. How many times have I woke up at 5am on a Sunday to work on PokeZam? How many times have I stayed up to 11pm struggling to get content finished? I feel like I wasted all of my time now. For once, it would be nice for someone to say sorry for their behaviour besides me. I refuse to say sorry for any of this mess because I tried my hardest and due to other people's bad attitudes (Nick, Kater) we are in the situation we are in now.

FreezeWarp
11-19-2007, 03:12 PM
Alakazam, can you reply to both one of the following questions?:

-Can you give me more power on the forum and/or the site. Whatever you feel comfortable with.
-Why is it that Erika can't come back? I could easily create her another account, and a lot of people here, besides for legacy (who I could care less about), want her to come back. So, I highly recommend you let me get her back and make her an smod.

Also, I can edit the zamcasts and record them to your liking, and can continue the video walkthroughs myself.

Also, can I have more freedom to do stuff on the forum without telling you? For instance, can I make people mods without your permission?

Legacy
11-19-2007, 03:32 PM
-Why is it that Erika can't come back? I could easily create her another account, and a lot of people here, besides for legacy (who I could care less about), want her to come back. So, I highly recommend you let me get her back and make her an smod.
This little snippet of text goes to prove a couple of points I made in my previous post about me being ignored and the staff bias here.

ShinyRaichu, please explain exactly what Erika contributed to this forum that would allow her to be unbanned for the many rules she broke and the general problems she caused all around. And after that, would you mind explaining what she accomplished on the staff, other than a constant misuse of power, that would make it a wise decision to but her back on the staff?

If you can come up with valid reasons for both of those questions, I will bow down to you and make you my lord.

Also, can I have more freedom to do stuff on the forum without telling you? For instance, can I make people mods without your permission?
The first part of your post was enough of a reason to tell Alakazam that you should never be able to make people mods without his permission. You're biased, big time.

I stand by what I say about Brandon being the only one that deserves more power. He at least has common sense.

Legacy, I'll respond to your post later. Thank you for writing so much. I have a question... why is everything always my fault? You know something, no one has ever said sorry to me in the 8 years that PokeZam has existed, but I've apologized tons of times (even when I wasn't at fault). You know, I bust my butt for this site. How many times have I woke up at 5am on a Sunday to work on PokeZam? How many times have I stayed up to 11pm struggling to get content finished? I feel like I wasted all of my time now. For once, it would be nice for someone to say sorry for their behaviour besides me. I refuse to say sorry for any of this mess because I tried my hardest and due to other people's bad attitudes (Nick, Kater) we are in the situation we are in now.
That's the problem. It's your site and you're the boss, so when things go wrong, regardless of how or who makes it go wrong, the axe will always grind on you and it'll be down to you to pick up the pieces. Which is why you have to choose your staff very carefully and be even more careful with who you place the most trust in.

Obviously, people that feel the need to beg for a position on the staff generally aren't the best candidates for that.

And people online are much more selfish and inconsiderate than in real life since they can just vanish without having to face up to their responsibilities or mistakes like they would in the real world. So it's much more likely that instead of an "I'm sorry", you'll get a big fat "F you". That's just the way it goes, I'm afraid. Not much you can do about that except, as I said, be more careful about who you trust.

Pokemaster
11-19-2007, 03:41 PM
No offense ShinyRaichu, but that sounds to be asking a bit much.

Brandon
11-19-2007, 05:01 PM
Actually, quite a few people wanted erika to stay:
Shiny Espeon 3speon Myself
Alakazam
Legacy Brandon-Kun Nick

I will say that if alakazam does give the a-okay, I will try my best to bring her back, being that nick will no longer be working against me. I still want to make sure he is okay with it, and of course want to do so much more with the forum and the site, but alakazam needs to give me permission.
You're wrong there, I didn't want her to stay. :)

first off, I was the one who banned Erika for a week, from there, everyone was agreeing that we needed a break from her and she needed a break from this forum. Then, Nick goes off and permabans her which I say corsses the line. Even if I hate her with all my heart, that wasn't right. Even if he was the head of the staff at the moment, he has no right to permaban someone without asking the owner, Alakazam.

Pokemaster
11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
You're wrong there, I didn't want her to stay. :)

Just curious, but why didn't you want her to stay?

FreezeWarp
11-19-2007, 05:06 PM
Sorry, bad graphic, those at the bottom didn't want her to stay.

Brandon
11-19-2007, 05:08 PM
Just curious, but why didn't you want her to stay?
That's none of your business. Stay on topic. This is your warning.

Legacy
11-19-2007, 05:11 PM
Sorry, bad graphic, those at the bottom didn't want her to stay.
Are you even going to answer my questions? Wait, lemme guess, you didn't even read my post.

Pokemaster
11-19-2007, 05:11 PM
Ok. Sorry. I didn't mean to intervene with your feelings or go off topic. I was merely curious but I should have considered your feelings first.

Brandon
11-19-2007, 07:50 PM
Are you even going to answer my questions? Wait, lemme guess, you didn't even read my post.
Like he ignores everyone but Alakazam. :rolleyes:

Alakazam
11-19-2007, 08:12 PM
By the way, I only feel comfortable giving power to people who I've talked to on on MSN and Skype and know well. The sad thing is, I don't think I've ever talked to Brandon or Shiny Espeon on MSN/Skype before.

Shiny Espeon
11-19-2007, 08:18 PM
The way I see this, once Brandon gets power, something will go horribly wrong (ex, he won't be active enough, although I'm just throwing an idea out there) and eventually power will go to somebody else, that person will mess up, and so on and so forth.

People, there's a pattern here. Look: first we had Bobby, then Kater, then Lewis, then Nick, and now there's a debate about who should replace Nick.

In my opinion, we should stop this string right here. Alakazam shouldn't have any more "head members" (although he should have supportive mods) but rather, he should depend on himself and himself only. Ok, he doesn't have enough time, but he could work on little things each and every day to create something big. And he should receive help from others, although he shouldn't favor any one.

That's the idea from a member who's been here for a year.

Pokemaster
11-19-2007, 08:28 PM
By the way, I only feel comfortable giving power to people who I've talked to on on MSN and Skype and know well. The sad thing is, I don't think I've ever talked to Brandon or Shiny Espeon on MSN/Skype before.

Well, I hope that you decide on new staff that is more reliable to you.
And he should receive help from others, although he shouldn't favor any one.
I agree completely.

FreezeWarp
11-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Um... Alakazam, in case you haven't read my PM, I will get the d/p video walkthrough done for you, hopefully by the new year. I will also edit the zamcasts for you, granted I can find something that can do it.

Edit: No, I don't read much of the forum, only alakazam's posts. Also, biased? I don't even know what that means. I will say that the mod thing was merely an example. Either way, I can do much good for this forum and the site, as I intend to do now. Also, remember, I are admin, I can infract. Your just lucky I don't infract for talking-back to admins. Either way, this is turning into a feud. From this point forward, no going off-topic, no being at all mean, etc.

Pokemaster
11-19-2007, 08:40 PM
I believe that we should do anything possible to make Pokezam better now than when Nick was here.

Shiny Espeon
11-19-2007, 09:43 PM
No, I don't read much of the forum, only alakazam's posts.

=/ If you want power then you'll have to learn to communicate and understand other people's posts. Oh, and biased means that you take somebody else's side. You'll probably have to be netruel if you want a large amount of power.

Oh, and Legacy was just stating his ideas and making his point. No need to get mad, dude.

FreezeWarp
11-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Heh, ouch. Actually, when I said I didn't read posts, I was trying to be sarcastic. As for sides, I more right than left.

Brandon
11-19-2007, 10:22 PM
Heh, ouch. Actually, when I said I didn't read posts, I was trying to be sarcastic. As for sides, I more right than left.
You might want to try a little harder than that. :rolleyes:

Well, I hope that you decide on new staff that is more reliable to you.
Who the hell said we weren't reliable? You joined like this month, and this isn't a good way to start off.

We are reliable more than anyone on this forum put together. :)

Yisrolik
11-19-2007, 11:12 PM
Actually, quite a few people wanted erika to stay:
Shiny Espeon 3speon Myself
Alakazam
Legacy Brandon-Kun Nick

I will say that if alakazam does give the a-okay, I will try my best to bring her back, being that nick will no longer be working against me. I still want to make sure he is okay with it, and of course want to do so much more with the forum and the site, but alakazam needs to give me permission.

Whjere the **** am I?

Pokemaster
11-20-2007, 06:17 AM
We are reliable more than anyone on this forum put together. :)

No I wasn't referring to the active users now. I was considering people like Nick and Kater, or at least what I have heard of them.

Alakazam
11-20-2007, 09:53 AM
Let me tell everyone the Nick story exactly how it happened. I went on Skype to take a break from working on Finance homework for 4 hours straight. We started talking about PokeZam. I said I wanted to offer an audio version of the news. I asked him if he could host the files since he has a ton of hosting space and bandwidth he doesn't use. He said ok, but I would have to send him the files for him to upload. What the hell? So I post the damn news, but the audio version doesn't appear until Nick gets off his lazy butt to add it (trust me, he said many times he would get things done the next day and they didn't get finished until like a week later)? Anyway, I said why don't you just create an FTP account for me where I have access to only one folder where I can upload the news each day? He laughed and said there is no way he trusted me enough to do that. Ok, back up a moment. How can he not trust me when I put all my trust into him in PokeZam? I gave him full access to edit the news (he could delete everything if he wanted to), I gave him full access on the forums (he could destroy them if he wanted to), I offered to give him full FTP access to the forums (again, he could delete everything if he wanted to), I was willing to give him access to my YouTube account (he could take it over if he wanted), and I allowed him to ban members so he wouldn't quit (Erika, Yisrolik). The bottom line is, how can he turn around and say he doesn't trust me after all I gave him!? Please answer me that question! Right then in there, I told him if he doesn't trust me after all the power I gave him to give me access to a simple FTP account, which in no way risked his site at all, he should resign right now. I wasn't being totally serious because I thought there was no chance he would over something as small as an FTP account. He comes back and says that he deleted his account on the forums and will be leaving PokeZam forever. He then blocked me on Skype and posted that ZamCast was cancelled on the main site. I sent him two long emails, but he never had the manners to respond to them.

During the whole time that Nick was here I was always trying to make him happy. If he didn't like a person he said he would quit PokeZam. For example, if I didn't ban Erika forever he would quit PokeZam. If I didn't ban Yisrolik from ZamCast he would quit. Nick has some serious mental problems. How can he think that he can just ignore people because he doesn't like them? He was severely hurting PokeZam because I always had to do what he said or he would quit. Besides recording and editing ZamCast, he didn't do anything for PokeZam (he promised tons, but never came through even though he's a college dropout working for minimum wage ie. the bottom of society).

You want to know how mentally disturbed Nick is? He paid one of the moderators at Bulbagarden to have access to the moderator forums. That's right, he paid someone money just to read a forum! You know? Nick hates Bulbagarden so much! He wants to see the site die and burn. He bought domain names similar to the Bulbagarden name just to screw them out. When I heard that, I was worried if Nick and me ever got on bad terms because he would act that way. Please tell me these are the actions of an obsessed individual.

Before I respond to anything else, please give me your thoughts on how I handled the situation. I tried my best to be reasonable, but after all I've done for him, if he's an ungrateful SOB then I can't work with him anymore.

Yisrolik
11-20-2007, 01:16 PM
Besides recording and editing ZamCast, he didn't do anything for PokeZam (he promised tons, but never came through even though he's a college dropout working for minimum wage ie. the bottom of society).

I editted Zamcast before him. lol.

Legacy
11-20-2007, 01:42 PM
To be completely honest, Alakazam, I do think you're over reacting a little bit. The thing you need to remember is that your site and his site are two entirely different entities. So while he worked at PokéZam and was a staff member here, he also had his own private website that was completely independent of this, so it's only fair for him to not want to entwine both sites with each other.

I don't think it was a case of him not trusting you as a person, or him thinking that you would mis-treat his site had he given you the access that you wanted. And really, asking for such access to begin with is asking a lot of someone, even if they are your friend. I have quite a few online friends who are webmasters and none of them would ever give access of their site to anyone, not even their best and most trusted friends.

I think the biggest problem here is that you relied on, and trusted, Nick a bit too much and, as is all too common with this kind of thing, it came around and bit you on the ***. I personally don't think anyone other than the site owner should have access to the FTP, just to be safe. Because, seriously, you can never be too careful when you're dealing with the internet.

I think the best thing you can do is just take a cooling off period and let the dust settle for a little bit. You did your best as far as Nick was concerned and that's all you can do. If it doesn't work out then it's through no fault of your own, you just need to persevere and keep looking at the positives.

Though he had the forum's best interests in mind, Nick was actually choking the forums with his strict rules and membership policy. The forum will probably end up a lot better off with a more relaxed approach for a while.

No doubt, you would've rather heard me say that I completely agree with everything you said but the truth is, I don't. And I'm only going to be completely honest with you. I see where you're coming from and understand why you're pissed, but I think you're letting your emotions and resentment of the 'betrayal' from Nick cloud your judgment. I'm sure things will work out for the best, though. Just be sure to not make the same errors twice.

Alakazam
11-20-2007, 02:37 PM
Thank you for your opinion, Legacy. I respect that you don't agree totally with me. You know what Nick wanted to do? He wanted to make the forums "staff only". I totally disagreed with that because if I was going to do that, I wouldn't have paid a lot of money for vBulletin; I would have just used a free bulletin board. Basically, if anyone disagreed with Nick on the forums he would ban them. He even took away ShinyRaichu's powers just for agreeing with Erika. Don't worry, I am open for him to return, but Nick will never be anything but a member on these forums again.

And regarding the FTP, it was just going to be for a folder for PokeZam... I couldn't access any of his files. He doesn't even use the extra web space, that's why I asked him.

XD375
11-20-2007, 02:40 PM
Alakazam, I want to personally say that was a good move when you got rid of Nick as a staff member. I'm 100% behind his downfall, and I don't care how rude that sounds.

He seriously payed a mod to access to controls? Jeez...

Can I ask which mod it was?

Alakazam
11-20-2007, 02:42 PM
I wish I could reveal who, but I can't. When I heard that, I knew Nick had a serious problem.

Legacy
11-20-2007, 03:11 PM
You know what Nick wanted to do? He wanted to make the forums "staff only". I totally disagreed with that because if I was going to do that, I wouldn't have paid a lot of money for vBulletin; I would have just used a free bulletin board.
Okay, that's completely crazy. The forum would serve no purpose if it was only used by a handful of people. And, as you said, it would've been a complete waste of money. Basically, if anyone disagreed with Nick on the forums he would ban them.
Heh, sounds like he and Erika do have some things in common, afterall.

And regarding the FTP, it was just going to be for a folder for PokeZam... I couldn't access any of his files. He doesn't even use the extra web space, that's why I asked him.
Ah, I see. Well, yeah, it doesn't really sound like Nick would've had anything to lose by hosting a folder with his excess space. I guess he's just even more strict about his own site than he was about PokéZam.

FreezeWarp
11-20-2007, 03:14 PM
Man nick was bad. I never liked him much, but now I downright detest him. Either way, if you gave nick full access, why can't you give me full access, or were you waiting to reply until I replied to this.

p.s. Again, I will take over the D/P walkthrough, and have great quality with only one minor problem, it takes a quick pause ever 30 sec, but that can easily be fixed, and I will also take over the Zamcasts by editing and recording them (though we would have to use gizmo). I'm behind you all the way alakazam, until the extent of closing down the site of course. I will alsobe adding news, so I can do quite well. We can avoid the C Pannel, but give me full forum power, and give me full FTP power, in both cases, I will not harm the site.

Also, the entire time I've been here, erika has never abused her powers any more than Brandon has (and neither of them abuse there powers, they just infract for "talking back to admins").

Finally, can you please tell me if I can bring Erika back, and why the new year is so important. If you think the forum makes it that way, it doesn't even know who erika is, it completely forgot about her, as it has with everybody who gets deleted (as she has been).

Legacy
11-20-2007, 03:50 PM
Man nick was bad. I never liked him much, but now I downright detest him. Either way, if you gave nick full access, why can't you give me full access, or were you waiting to reply until I replied to this.
Maybe Alakazam has learnt his lesson about giving people full access to the site and forums? No good will come from it and a lot of bad could follow.

Also, the entire time I've been here, erika has never abused her powers any more than Brandon has (and neither of them abuse there powers, they just infract for "talking back to admins").
Ha, you're either deluded, extremely biased, incredibly naive, or all three. Erika once went as far as to unfairly ban me for proving her wrong in a thread, locked the thread and then deleted all of her incriminating posts when I threatened to get LA involved. Not to mention all the times she's infracted me for disagreeing with her and all the times she has locked threads, including ones not made by her, simply because she didn't get her own way in the thread, or threatening to infract or ban someone if they posted something different to what she said was allowed. Plus all the times she bypassed censors to curse and flame at people, mainly me. Seriously, I could go on and on.

Getting rid of Erika was the smartest decision made on this forum in a long while. The only downside was the emergence of Nick's uber strict rules and your naive, biased and just plain rude approach as a higher staff member.

Here's an idea, Alakazam. Remove all staff, except you, from their positions and then pick new staff based on their general helpfulness, productiveness on the forums, approach to submitting and reviewing ideas, ability to act unbiased and methodically and general all around intelligence.

You'll end up with better, more deserving staff if you do it that way, rather than just giving in to the people who beg for the power despite clearly proving that they can't handle it, as is the case with ShinyRaichu here.

FreezeWarp
11-20-2007, 03:56 PM
Ha, you're either deluded, extremely biased, incredibly naive, or all three. Erika once went as far as to unfairly ban me for proving her wrong in a thread, locked the thread and then deleted all of her incriminating posts when I threatened to get LA involved. Not to mention all the times she's infracted me for disagreeing with her and all the times she has locked threads, including ones not made by her, simply because she didn't get her own way in the thread, or threatening to infract or ban someone if they posted something different to what she said was allowed. Plus all the times she bypassed censors to curse and flame at people, mainly me. Seriously, I could go on and on.

Getting rid of Erika was the smartest decision made on this forum in a long while. The only downside was the emergence of Nick's uber strict rules and your naive, biased and just plain rude approach as a higher staff member.

Here's an idea, Alakazam. Remove all staff, except you, from their positions and then pick new staff based on their general helpfulness, productiveness on the forums, approach to submitting and reviewing ideas, ability to act unbiased and methodically and general all around intelligence.

You'll end up with better, more deserving staff if you do it that way, rather than just giving in to the people who beg for the power despite clearly proving that they can't handle it, as is the case with ShinyRaichu here.

How exactly was I "rude" and "naive", give me an example. As for erika, seriously, well, we can scrap her as a possibility. As for your idea for staff, well, first of all, there aren't many, okay, any forum people who meat those qualifications. Nobody comes close to those requirements, though, there is one you forgot, general attitude. Though, I must admit one thing, I have been begging. And I do appologize for that, but you have to realize, I have done quite a bit for pokezam, as I will prove to you tonight.

Pokemaster
11-20-2007, 03:58 PM
Here's an idea, Alakazam. Remove all staff, except you, from their positions and then pick new staff based on their general helpfulness, productiveness on the forums, approach to submitting and reviewing ideas, ability to act unbiased and methodically and general all around intelligence.

You do make a strong point. (No offense to any current staff) At least this way, you will know your staff a lot better.

Legacy
11-20-2007, 04:14 PM
How exactly was I "rude" and "naive", give me an example. As for erika, seriously, well, we can scrap her as a possibility. As for your idea for staff, well, first of all, there aren't many, okay, any forum people who meat those qualifications. Nobody comes close to those requirements, though, there is one you forgot, general attitude. Though, I must admit one thing, I have been begging. And I do appologize for that, but you have to realize, I have done quite a bit for pokezam, as I will prove to you tonight.
I remember one time when, despite me being granted full access to the Admin section and providing legitimate and well thought out arguments and ideas, you said to me, something along the lines of, "I don't want your opinion, I want the opinion of the real staff. Your opinion only counts if there's a tie." Rude. I can also recall several times in the past where you've done something of your own accord, then to be told by everyone else that it should be done a different way, only to ignore what everyone said and carry on doing what you wanted. Rude. Also your general demeanour and seeming ability to only listen to the Alakazam and, in the past, Nick, whilst being able to completely ignore the ideas of the rest of us. Rude.

And back when Erika first got demoted, I listed all the reasons why she had been demoted, and you dismissed them as, "that's just the way she is." Naive and biased. And then your continual quest to bring her back despite all the problems she caused. Naive and biased. And your lack of methodical thinking and planning with the running of the forum, thinking you can just make things up and change them as you go along without consulting the opinions of others first. Naive.

And if no one 'comes close' to meeting those specifications, clearly nobody deserves to be on the staff at all, eh?

Pokemaster
11-20-2007, 04:31 PM
Wow Legacy. You make a strong argument, but you do pinpoint some of the problems that others would just look over. (not that I'm trying to start stuff, the last thing I want is people mad at me)

FreezeWarp
11-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Eww...Ouch. Yeah, I did say that. Sorry, if I remember, I thought that to have been badly typed. Again, sorry. I still wish I could grasp "biased", but either way, I do want her back, though I hadn't the smallest idea she abused her powers throughout your quarels with her. That sickens me actually.

Brandon
11-20-2007, 06:04 PM
Ok. This is sort of becoming a little "chat" thread.

Stay on topic. This is the third time we have said this. I will start infracting if this starts to go on. That's goes for staff too. ShinyRaichu you said to not get off topic, and you kind of are. Just stay on topic, please.

Brandon
11-21-2007, 04:45 PM
(F)uck you. Infract me all you want.
Now we really know how much you mean to PokeZam!